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22nd March 2010, 06:28 AM
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Ok, here's something I've been thinking about lately. We talk about Diana's marriage...what about her asking him to give her away at her wedding? The typical "father of the bride" role. How does this sit with all we've speculated about their relationship? I suppose her asking him to do this is what has led many other people to say that Diana was either 1) cruel and rubbing it in his face or 2) oblivious to his love and heartache for her. But given what we've all speculated on here, what do we think of her request?
Was she trying to make amends somehow in a weird way? Does this prove that Mike didn't really articulate his feelings to her? WELL I THINK MANY THING ABOUT HER "marriage"(in fact I think her and her student Brandi might have something in common),but first off Remember Diana's little JOKE at the AA about we are going to make a movie together and he is going to play my SON, or the Blonde wig she wore to the WMA 96 (and her main concern about the wig was to ask MIKE DO YOU LIKE MY HAIR!!!! Well I think this might be one of those moments! Diana had quite the sense of humor didnt she. I just watched a video she made for her song My OLD Piano. Now on the surface what is the big deal Gavin? WELL in some circles NOTHING,BUT in Some very Savvy BLACK circles a piano keyboard means a MAN'S****** body part. So knowing that, this song takes on a total different meaning doesnt????  YouTube - Diana Ross - My Old Piano And as far as Dreamgirls I did not mean he would have a day to day involvement but he could have been financial involved,that is what I meant. Did you know that the SONY/ATV catelog maintains 34 office bldg all over the world. So I think we maybe have been a little clueless when it came to Mike's business endevors,I think they are VAST and we just again have been fed the FAIRY DUST by the hopeless incompetent MEDIA. I swear I have lost ALL faith in the media after my investigation into Mike life. I mean not that I didnt know that they Lied about Mike. I did know that FOR SURE I KNEW THAT. BUt they have gotten NOTHING RIGHT,and even still today THEY GET NOTHING RIGHT! 100% NOTHING IS WHAT IT IS. So what does that say. When I can find more truth then they ever have. I mean we are still getting THE DIANA WAS HIS MOTHER point of MANURE TODAY we get this????? Randy T will feed us what I guess is what Barry Gordy wants us to be fed,because he has this wrong,and he has had it wrong always. I mean here is an example and I know Encino that you are connected in some way with someone in LMP camp but this is what I found yesterday. Mike's legal name is Michael Joe Jackson,his birth certificate says this,passport, last current Driver's License. YET on his marriage certificate to Lisa his name is printed and signed as Michael Joseph Jackson which is not his name. (now what that means WHO knows)that is not why I told you the story I have some thoughts but again that is not why I told you about it. Randy T could not even find that out and I did. And believe me I certainly am no Reporter and never have I been.WHY did not Randy tell me this. And his whole supposed knowledge of Diana Ross is BAD it is, So it makes me question if he really does know his backside from his front. And I have never questioned this before. I knew Randy T was not the greatest author in the whole world but I thought I could believe 1/2 of what he said. NOW after this thread I am not sure if that belief is possible anymore. He missed ALOT,ALOT!!!. So the only thing I can think is he is in someone back pocket because his reporting skills are lacking by a bunch. Hope you guys had a great weekend. I took my very pregnant daughter in law out to buy things for the new baby she is getting ready to have. she is finally having a girl after two boys SO WE NEEDED PINK and a new carseat. |
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22nd March 2010, 07:14 AM
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 I hope that everything will be fine and this female child will bring joy and luck to your family Beyonce concluded the Contract with Columbia Records in 1996, but in December, 2009 some rumors apeared that she was going to leave Columbia Records and go independent... About "My old piano".. When I paid my attention to the lyrics, I saw that this song takes on a total different meaning "Love is called My old piano I have a ball With my old piano He entertains The real life of my parties But still retains In all the dignity His international style Exudes an air of royalties His eighty eight key smile Is so pleasant to see.." About financial involvement... I think that Michael could have been financial and not only financial involved with so many projects we just can't imagine about just like no one could imagine the opportunity of Diana's name in the Will  I don't know about Taraborelli and on whose side he is playing.. It seems to me that these writers try to please public and get as much money as possible.. They write what the majority of fans accept or what public want to read and discuss... But I have a little bit of hope that somebody someday will write "The Book of Truth" about Michael and it will be handed out for FREE. But unfortunatly it's much easier and interesting to sell the lie... Encinogirl, you've mentioned one of the reasons for my mixed feeling on Diana.. I don't know what to answer, because I have too many "WHY" questions to this woman and these questions don't have answers at least now and all of them are weird for me.. I can't answer them and no matter how much I try to explane... I have only one explanation: now people let to know only what need to know (and it isn't our decision). It's their private life. Well.. today I have one more question.. We all know about the story when Michael invited Diana to the restaurant "La Dome", but then Elizabeth called and... Through one of my good friends I've heard the information "that Michael was late for that dinner and when he arrived Elizabeth was upset and told him that no one makes her wait so he brought her diamond jewelleries to apologize for his lateness and tried to explain to her that he supposed to be with Diana and that he invited her to join them but she refused and she got more upset about it and left him alone in the restaurant then came back and picked up the jewelleries he bought her and left... After that incident Michael was looking for someone to make a duet with for the song "I just can't stop loving you" and Quincy told him to ask Diana and he said that she won't accept because she was too much upset with him." Do you know something about it? Because if Michael wanted Diana to sing with him "I just can't stop loving you", all this story could be in different way... |
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22nd March 2010, 08:28 AM
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 !!!), not sure what to make of Diana asking Michael to give her away at her wedding, but what I make of it is that I don't think or see why Diana would want to rub Michael's face in it, for what reason???? I 100% BELIEVE this wasn't the case. first of all, Michael probably never told Diana how he really felt (about the wanting to marry her stuff) even though they had this hot, sexy secret romance/ affair going on) OR maybe after Diana had told Michael to move on, as there couldn't be a future between them, Diana probably thought Michael would move on quickly and would forgive her easily and quickly and they could still act as if they are just friends, not knowing/ realising just how deep Michael's feelings was for her.Don't know really "SHRUG"  that's what is so confusing, complicated and mysterious about their relationship, even with all the facts, clips and detective work we've all done, we still don't know the full detail/ real deal that happened between Michael & Diana. (and that is sort of fustrating for me, call me nosy, but!!!! I want to know the REAL DEAL).Their relationship will always remain a mystery, unless of course Diana says something (which I don't think she will be revealing anything that when on between her and Michael anytime soon, but MIRACLES might happen and she might reveal it to the world one day) . PS:-Gavin, congrats on your daughter expecting, bet you can't wait for your first grand-daughter and I bet she would be spoilt rotten, JUST PRECIOUS  |
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22nd March 2010, 11:06 AM
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 I'm glad that you enjoyed my videos about our lovely couple!!!  And going back to discussion, which was very constructive as always...  First Pilar you always get me with curious stuff this whole situation with Beyonce and Dream Girls... This explain Michael's attraction to Beyonce... And look at this pic: Diana and Beyonce... I just wonder (looking at their dresses) what Michael would be choose: black or white... And about this "Le Dome" incident ... I read that Michael went to dinner with Elizabeth (of course without Diana, but this situation with earrings was placed in different occasion) and then when he go back home, he called to Diana many times to apologize her but she didn't anwsered his calls and then he decided visited her personally... (*and propably she forgive him... ) Also I don't think that this situation was the reason that he didn't sang I just can't stop loving you with her, because Le Dome incident was in 1985, and if I good remember this song he wrote in 1987. So the reason why he didn't want sing it with Diana was still her marriage with Arne... and this song was wrote about Diana so I think that would be really hard to him sing this song with woman that he "can't stop loving"... And now something nice I found another cute pic from AMA 81:Look at Diana... she really looked seducetively.... |
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22nd March 2010, 11:26 AM
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It isn't a mother's kiss This one is also good  According to "I just can't stop loving you".. Well.. You can be right I know that it was recorded in 1987.. But when was it written??? "It was originally intended to be a duet between Michael and his woman of choice. They even thought that the name of this woman could be either Barbra Streisand or Whitney Houston, even Aretha Franklin and Agnetha Fältskog (formerly of ABBA) were offered the song, but all four had other obligations. However, songwriter and Quincy Jones protege Garrett volunteered to sing with Michael". Too many different names and there was only one who he wanted and couldn't sing with  It would be really awkward if Michael and Diana recorded this song together while she was married..Ok..I know that's a crazy idea, but nevertheless... do you see some likeness between Gene Simmons and Michael?  |
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22nd March 2010, 12:26 PM
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Good morning Mr.J & Ms. R's Greater-than-Life Love Crew! Just wanted to stop by and share the strangest dream I had last night...I dreamt I was somewhere in Rio (TDCAU vid setting) and there comes Mr. J telling me that he can't stop loving Diana. I tell him not to worry, that I had seen her at the Copacabana Plaza (where I stayed at in my senior year trip- LOL). So we take a cab to the hotel and Ms. Ross is at the front desk talking to a hotel guest (yes, she was the receptionist). Mr. J takes a folded piece of paper out of his pocket and hands it to me...(I guess I got this part from all the acceptance speech vids). I wait for Ms. R to finish her conversation with the guest...I walk towards the front desk and I hand her the piece of paper. She opens it, reads it and SMILES (Wow) I walk back to Mr. J, he seems SO HAPPY... And this is the funny part, I get to get a warm bear hug before he dashes towards his lady with the brightest smile on his face. I was actually able feel his contagious, overwheming joy!
I know something else happened but I can't remember what it was...Is there such a think as a dream-retriever machine? LOL |
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22nd March 2010, 12:29 PM
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They always look so cute together !!!
By the way if that rumours was true and Diana would be sing one song with Michael on This is it tour... maybe it would be I just can't stop loving you... 
 I know what you mean, but Michael always look much sexier then Gene, even when he had mask on his face!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you're some kinda of visionary or something?? |
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22nd March 2010, 12:57 PM
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 Ma.Elena, what a dream... thank you so much for sharing |
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22nd March 2010, 01:09 PM
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I always wondered why Michael and Diana has never done a duet together??? I think their voices would have been perfect together, it might have been a bit awkward for them though, knowing that they would had to do a video for whatever duet they did together, knowing that they were secret lovers and that they had to not give anything away to the public & be professional. I think their body language would have given them away though, if they had done a duet/ video together. (especially if it is a love song), I could just see the sparks flying between them What do you think??? I did have several Google alerts that Michael planned for Diana to be a surprise guest at one of his "This is it" shows in London, I wonder what surprise or duet they would in store for us ??? that would have been really great to witness.PS:- MaElena, that was a lovely dream by the way, I would have to to never wake up if I had a dream like that. |
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