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MJ's P.Y.T. · 20th January 2010, 09:47 PM

New Book: Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liasons:Arvizo, Barnes, Bhatti, Chandler, Culkin...The A-Z of all the King's Boys by Carl Toms

A must read for those who believed he truly loved children but are not so sure about his innocence...Michael Jackson spent the wedding night of his second marriage not with his bride but with his best-man, an eight-year old boy. His first marriage ended in divorce after he had been on holiday with two young boys without his wife. To kneejerk loyalists, the King of Pop's love for children was innocent:end of story. For the more reflective among us, whether we are intrigued, baffled, appalled, emphatic, or even all of these things, Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liasons provides the definitive review of his numerous special friendships. Armed with insights from a range of disciplines psychology, sociology, moral philosophy Carl Toms spent many years researching the megastar's boy-love. He delves deeply into the sources of Michael's enigmatic identity, soul and genius while keeping a skeptical eye on the assumptions and values of the King's detractors. Toms' is the only book to examine thoroughly Michael's trial on child abuse charges without losing sight of the increasingly well documented but surprisingly little known or understood facts about earlier allegations. It exposes the falsity of persistient efforts to whitewash the record by inventing for Michael a 'phoney normal, or plain vanilla gay,' sexuality. The author probes Michael's intense identification with Peter Pan, the eternal boy, acknowledging the profound signifigance of this attachment but discarding the welter of dated Fruedian psychobabble it has spawned. Refusing to settle for the cliches about Michael's lost childhood, Toms examines groundbreaking research into intimate man-boy contacts in order to illuminate the real nature of Michael's dangerous liasons and the surprising challenge they present to our moral certainties.

Question: Are you skeptical about his innocence?
I'm not! I believe this book is one of many, used to assasinate his character and stain his legacy. Any thoughts? Thanks for responding.

berylas · 21st January 2010, 08:34 PM

you can say that again
To be true, I don't know what book to believe anymore. I still have my faith in Moonwalk.

MichaelFanSK · 21st January 2010, 10:04 PM

Any link to the book?

unsmoothgirl · 21st January 2010, 10:10 PM

Excuse my ignorance, or naiveness... But I just don't understabnd why anyone would want to hurt his character?
I mean half of the people that write books about him, probaqbly have never met him. Therefore, he has done nothing wrong to them.
Why would they need to try to destroy him? especially when he can't fight back?

Honey_MJ · 21st January 2010, 10:35 PM

^^ Heartless people who are after money

I found this link. Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons: Arvizo, Barnes, Bhatti, Chandler, Culkin...The A-Z of All the King's Boys: Amazon.co.uk: Carl Toms: Books

Poor Michael

and to answer your question. I've NEVER doubted his innocence

There should be more people like Michael.

Yana Jackson · 22nd January 2010, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by unsmoothgirl

Excuse my ignorance, or naiveness... But I just don't understabnd why anyone would want to hurt his character?
I mean half of the people that write books about him, probaqbly have never met him. Therefore, he has done nothing wrong to them.
Why would they need to try to destroy him? especially when he can't fight back?

You make a great point. Why believe anything that is written by someone who probably has never met Michael on a personal level.
People writing books should at least be in touch with their subject. The fact that most of these 'authors' arent - loses credibility with me.

I'm just saying.

Apple Dust · 22nd January 2010, 08:07 AM

The author probes Michael's intense identification with Peter Pan, the eternal boy, acknowledging the profound signifigance of this attachment but discarding the welter of dated Fruedian psychobabble it has spawned. Refusing to settle for the cliches about Michael's lost childhood, Toms examines groundbreaking research into intimate man-boy contacts in order to illuminate the real nature of Michael's dangerous liasons and the surprising challenge they present to our moral certainties.

Why are some people so intent on over-analysing Michael's character at the risk of - or even intention of - twisting certain aspects of the truth into something sick? Why can't you just take it from the horse's mouth with all supporting evidence (eg. Michael's working/famous childhood) and accept that he was simply searching for something pure and magical that you only get from a childhood. It's really not difficult to understand. Besides, God forbid anyone accept that Michael just might have been speaking the truth all along!

As much as it pains me so say, the poor man is dead. Please let him rest in peace. He had enough of this mess his whole life.

wlmj · 22nd January 2010, 08:07 AM

Most disgusted is the author claim himself a fan???

"About the Author - A Michael Jackson fan since the King of Pop's childhood rise to fame with the Jackson Five, Carl Toms is a veteran journalist who was based for many years in the Middle East. "

angel76 · 22nd January 2010, 09:04 AM

Is there a way we can stop this book from being published? Its again filled with trash but made to look authentic by using so-called credible people like professors to dissect Michael's character. Shameful...

Sharon Rose · 22nd January 2010, 09:24 AM

I've become like a lionnese when it comes to Michael. I love him since more than 17 years now, I believed in him from the very beginning and NOT blindly. I believe in him cause he's innocent and nothing can prove me the contrary. NONE of their theories are solid, NONE of the facts they put up to show him guilty don't have a root,they are SUPPOSITIONS, and suppositions are not facts. This is cowardy, they never met Michael, but they have the face to come with books like that, that's an enigma for me.

Have they EVER been at Neverland during 1993 trial? Have theye EVER been in Michael's room and SEE with their own eyes what this kid pretends? No one was. I could never ever believe someone who wants to eat him like an eagal just because of money "hunting-the-freak" saga. Usually things like that don't touch me because it's bull**** and bull**** goes to the trash, but god, how dare you write such a book based on nothing and manipulate the minds of other people who don't know details about these trials!

He is always hunted because media created such a hyperbolical image around him like if he is the most undiscovered specimen that ever born. That's why there will be more books like this one. People just try and see how it works, how much money they get for their "masterpiece".

I really believe that no person who knows Michael and his heart could ever be at least undecised about what to believe. It's absurd, I mean...what on earth should he do for people to leave this trash aside from him?How can you speak about a person you never met? how can you talk s**t about someone you never knew?It makes my blood boil!

20th January 2010, 09:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
MJ's P.Y.T. Off The Wall Poster!! Profile Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Gender: Posts: 476 Threads: 14 Thanked: 260 times Credits: 5,883 Gifts	Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liasons: Arvizo New Book: Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liasons:Arvizo, Barnes, Bhatti, Chandler, Culkin...The A-Z of all the King's Boys by Carl Toms A must read for those who believed he truly loved children but are not so sure about his innocence...Michael Jackson spent the wedding night of his second marriage not with his bride but with his best-man, an eight-year old boy. His first marriage ended in divorce after he had been on holiday with two young boys without his wife. To kneejerk loyalists, the King of Pop's love for children was innocent:end of story. For the more reflective among us, whether we are intrigued, baffled, appalled, emphatic, or even all of these things, Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liasons provides the definitive review of his numerous special friendships. Armed with insights from a range of disciplines psychology, sociology, moral philosophy Carl Toms spent many years researching the megastar's boy-love. He delves deeply into the sources of Michael's enigmatic identity, soul and genius while keeping a skeptical eye on the assumptions and values of the King's detractors. Toms' is the only book to examine thoroughly Michael's trial on child abuse charges without losing sight of the increasingly well documented but surprisingly little known or understood facts about earlier allegations. It exposes the falsity of persistient efforts to whitewash the record by inventing for Michael a 'phoney normal, or plain vanilla gay,' sexuality. The author probes Michael's intense identification with Peter Pan, the eternal boy, acknowledging the profound signifigance of this attachment but discarding the welter of dated Fruedian psychobabble it has spawned. Refusing to settle for the cliches about Michael's lost childhood, Toms examines groundbreaking research into intimate man-boy contacts in order to illuminate the real nature of Michael's dangerous liasons and the surprising challenge they present to our moral certainties. Question: Are you skeptical about his innocence? I'm not! I believe this book is one of many, used to assasinate his character and stain his legacy. Any thoughts? Thanks for responding.

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berylas Got To Be There Poster! Profile Join Date: Nov 2009 Age: 20 Gender: Posts: 46 Threads: 2 Thanked: 18 times Credits: 1,141	you can say that again To be true, I don't know what book to believe anymore. I still have my faith in Moonwalk.

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unsmoothgirl Music & Me Poster! Profile Name: Diamond Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Posts: 97 Threads: 2 Thanked: 50 times Credits: 1,979	Excuse my ignorance, or naiveness... But I just don't understabnd why anyone would want to hurt his character? I mean half of the people that write books about him, probaqbly have never met him. Therefore, he has done nothing wrong to them. Why would they need to try to destroy him? especially when he can't fight back?

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wlmj Off The Wall Poster!! Profile Name: wendy Join Date: Oct 2009 Gender: Posts: 477 Threads: 17 Thanked: 409 times Credits: 6,894 Gifts	Most disgusted is the author claim himself a fan??? "About the Author - A Michael Jackson fan since the King of Pop's childhood rise to fame with the Jackson Five, Carl Toms is a veteran journalist who was based for many years in the Middle East. "

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angel76 Off The Wall Poster!! Profile Name: NK Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: India Gender: Posts: 271 Threads: 11 Thanked: 79 times Blog Entries: 4 Credits: 4,405	Is there a way we can stop this book from being published? Its again filled with trash but made to look authentic by using so-called credible people like professors to dissect Michael's character. Shameful...

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Sharon Rose Music & Me Poster! Profile Name: Sharon Rose Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Netherlands Age: 23 Gender: Posts: 77 Threads: 5 Thanked: 21 times Credits: 1,399	I've become like a lionnese when it comes to Michael. I love him since more than 17 years now, I believed in him from the very beginning and NOT blindly. I believe in him cause he's innocent and nothing can prove me the contrary. NONE of their theories are solid, NONE of the facts they put up to show him guilty don't have a root,they are SUPPOSITIONS, and suppositions are not facts. This is cowardy, they never met Michael, but they have the face to come with books like that, that's an enigma for me. Have they EVER been at Neverland during 1993 trial? Have theye EVER been in Michael's room and SEE with their own eyes what this kid pretends? No one was. I could never ever believe someone who wants to eat him like an eagal just because of money "hunting-the-freak" saga. Usually things like that don't touch me because it's bull** and bull goes to the trash, but god, how dare you write such a book based on nothing and manipulate the minds of other people who don't know details about these trials! He is always hunted because media created such a hyperbolical image around him like if he is the most undiscovered specimen that ever born. That's why there will be more books like this one. People just try and see how it works, how much money they get for their "masterpiece". I really believe that no person who knows Michael and his heart could ever be at least undecised about what to believe. It's absurd, I mean...what on earth should he do for people to leave this trash aside from him?How can you speak about a person you never met? how can you talk st about someone you never knew?It makes my blood boil!

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